Proposed Operation of the Arizona Limited (updated 9/24/2005)

OPERATING PROPOSAL, AAPRCO 28 TH ANNUAL CONVENTION  

CHICAGO TO PHOENIX AND RETURN, OCTOBER 1 TO 12, 2005

Version 6.1 , August 31, 2005, J. L. Larson

The following proposal is for the AAPRCO convention to be held in Williams and for the associated special trains to be operated between October 1 and October 12, 2005.

A list of the Key Personnel and their phone numbers is on the Members Only web page under the listing for Conventions.

Consist:   The maximum consist for planning purposes is 23 cars not including the Western cars to be picked up at Albuquerque.

Locomotives: Three Amtrak units are planned to handle up to 23 cars over Raton without HEP (not including Albuquerque pick up.) Units are to be lined up forward, forward and reverse. The operation will have a maximum size train over La Veta Pass and over Raton Pass.

Braking:  The train will operate in direct release braking.

Speed:  All cars are approved for at least 90 MPH operation.

Routing:

St. Oct. 1st: The Arizona Limited special train will depart Chicago IL, on No. 3's route to La Junta, CO through to Albequerque.

Sun. Oct. 2: Operate La Junta to Trinidad, thence to Walsenberg with a connection to the San Luis & Rio Grande Railroad. Operate over La Veta Pass to Antonito and park adjacent to the Cumbres & Toltec Scenic Railroad.

Sun. Oct. 2:  Albuquerque . Service train at Albuquerque and pick up western cars. Operate Albuquerque to Santa Fe.

Mon. Oct. 3rd: In the morning, passengers will have the option of riding the steam powered narrow gauge Cumbres & Toltec to Chama. and then bus to Santa Fe or remaining with the Arizona Limited special for a ride back from Antonito to Walsenberg, Trinidad, Lamy, to Santa Fe. The Arizona Limited will park overnight at Santa Fe. 

Tue. Oct. 4th: In the afternoon, the Arizona Limited will operate Santa Fe to Albuquerque for servicing and leave Albuquerque in the late evening for Williams.

Wed. Oct. 5th: Arrival in Williams in the early morning.  Arrangements made to ride 1:00 P.M. Verde Canyon Railway.

Thu. Oct. 6th:  Operate Williams to Grand Canyon and return to Williams with two units and 16 cars  A car party will be held at Williams, with one-half of the cars open for the party. 

No smoking will be allowed aboard the train to and from the Grand Canyon.  This is a National Park Service requirement due to the fear of forest fires. 

No gray water dumping is allowed in the park.  Bring sanitary lotions to wash your hands.  Also NO dishwashing, showers, etc.

The park has a $10 entrance fee per person.  Anyone who holds a Golden Eagle Passport may enter for free.  We are asking that each car owner collect the fee, in cash, from those aboard their car.  Golden Eagle Passport holders will fill in the number and their name on a sheet of paper.  Aarrangements are being made to collect the fees and numbers from each car owner.

Fri. Oct. 7th: The Arizona Limited will operate from Williams to Phoenix and return. We will remain in Phoenix only long enough to run the power around the train. Convention activities in Williams today. Arizona Limited parked at Williams tonight.

Sat. Oct. 8th: Arizona Limited parked at Williams. Convention activities. Car party other half of the cars.

Sun. Oct. 9th: Arizona Limited parked at Williams. Convention activities. Convention banquet tonight.

Mon Oct. 10th: Arizona Limited operate from Williams to Albuquerque. Set out western cars for Amtrak. Parked overnight at Albuquerque.  (Note special train is due to arrive Albuquerque shortly before No.3, if special arrives on time can we use the road power to set over connection to rear of No.3 and thus avoid a one day delay to cars going west.  Set out cars will be on the point of the special.)

Tue. Oct. 11th: Arizona Limited depart Albuquerque ... travel route of Amtrak's Southwest Chief to Chicago.

Wed. Oct. 12th: Service Arizona Limited at Kansas City at 3 AM. After servicing train at Kansas City operate ahead of No.4 through to Chicago.

SCHEDULE

Sat. Oct. 1   
                      0  L. Chicago Terminal         10:30 AM CDT

                    162       Galesburg                    1:15 PM

                    220       Ft. Madison                2:25 PM  Engineer Change.

                    437       Kansas City                  5:55 PM  Crew Change

                    437       Kansas City                  6:05 PM

                    442       Argentine                      6:15 P.M.    Fuel Locomotives

                    442       Argentine                      6:30 P.M.

                    503       Topeka                         8:35  P.M.

                    638       Newton                         11:00 P.M.

Sun. Oct. 2  
                   782        Dodge City                   1:40 AM     CDT Crew Change

                    985  A.  La Junta                      4:05 AM    MDT  Crew Change

                   985   L  La Junta                       4:15 AM

                 1066       Trinidad                        5:40 AM

                 1089       Raton                           6:50 AM

                  1200.     Las Vegas                     6:40 AM

                  1265      Lamey                            10:30 A.M.

                 1332  A Albuquerque                  12:10 P.M. MDT No. 4 leaves at 12:55 PM
                                                                                                      Service train, change crews,
                                                                                                      Pick up western cars.

                 1332 L  Albuquerque                    4:00 PM             No 3 arrives 3:55 PM

                  1399    Lamy                                5:10 P.M.

                   1399   Lamy                                 5:20 P.M.

                   1417 A Santa Fe                      6:40 P.M.

 

Mon. Oct. 3    Bus (Ramblin Express)

                   L. Santa Fe 7:00 A.M.

                   A. Antonito 9:00 A.M.

                      Cumbres & Toltec Scenic

                   L. Antonito 10:00 A.M.

                  A. Cumbres 4:30 P.M.

                       Bus

                  Cumbres for meal 5:00 P.M.

                L. Cumbres 7:00 P.M.

                A. Santa Fe 9:00 P.M.

Tue. Oct. 4        0  L.  Santa Fe                       1:30 P.M.  See Note A

                        16       Lamy                             2:45 P.M.

                        16       Lamy                             3:00 P.M.
                       
                        83  A.  Albuquerque               4:30 P.M.     Service train. .

                           0  L.  Albuquerque                  10:00 P.M.

Wed. Oct. 5 
                      173       Gallup                              12:30 A.M.   MDT

                      301       Winslow                           1:20 A.M.   MST (AZ Time)

                      359       Flagstaff                          2:30 A.M.

                      389       Williams Jct.                    3:15 A.M.

                      393   A.  Williams                           3:30 A.M.

 

                                   Bus

                             L.   Williams                          10:00 A.M.

                             A.   Clarkdale                        12:00 Noon

                                   Verde Canyon Railroad

                             L.   Clarkdale                           1:00 P.M.

                             A.   Clarkdale                           5:00 P.M.

                                    Bus

                             L.    Clarkdale                           5:15 P.M.

                             A.    Williams                            7:00 P.M.

 

Thu. Oct. 6
                            0  L. Williams                           7:30 A.M.    See Note B and C

                            64 A. Grand Canyon                 9:45 A.M.

                            64 L.  Grand Canyon                2:30 P.M.

                          128 A.  Williams                          4:45 P.M.

 

Fri. Oct. 7
                             0  L.  Williams                         7:00 A.M.

                            93      Skull Valley                   10:00 A.M.

                          152      Wickenburg                   12:01 P.M.

                          206  A. Phoenix                          2:00 P.M.    Change crews and pilots.

                          206  L. Phoenix                          3:00 P.M.   

                          260      Wickenburg                    5:00 P.M.

                          319      Skull Valley                     7:00 P.M.

                          412  A. Williams                        10:00 P.M.

 

Sat., Sun. Oct. 8 and 9 Convention at Williams

 

Mon. Oct. 10          0  L. Williams                         5:30 A.M.  See Note D

                              3       Williams Jct.                  5:40 A.M.

                             33      Flagstaff                        6:20 A.M.

                             91 A.  Winslow                        7:20 A.M.  MST (AZ Time)

                           219      Gallup                          10:20 A.M. MDT

                           392  A. Albuquerque                  2:00 P.M.  Service train, set out
                                                                                                    Western cars.
                                                                                                    No.3 due 3:55-4:45 P

Tue. Oct. 11           0   L. Albuquerque                7:00 A.M.  See Note E

                             67       Lamy                             8:05 A.M.

                            347      La Junta                        2:20 P.M.   MDT  Crew Change

                            347  L. La Junta                        2:30 P.M.   MDT

                            550      Dodge City                    6:45 P.M.   CDT

                            694      Newton                          9:20 P.M.

                            895  A. Kansas City                   2:10 A.M.

 

Wed. Oct. 12            0  L. Kansas City                   6:30 A.M.   No.4 due 7:15-30 A

                            217       Fort Madison               10:00 A.M.      "          "   11:11 A.M

                            275      Galesburg                     11:00 A.M.      "          "    12:10 P.M

                            437  A. Chicago                          2:30 P.M.      "          "      3:20 P.M.

 Note:  Except for initial start each day train may operate ahead of time.  Crew on duty times should be closely monitored to avoid delay for crews if train is operating ahead of time.

Note A: All passengers must be on board at Santa Fe by 1:00 P.M. to permit doubling train and brake test for 1:30 P.M. departure.

Note B – Train to be positioned at Williams Depot at 7:00 A.M. for loading.  Train will be positioned at Grand Canyon depot  at 2:00 P.M. for loading.  Train to Canyon will have two units and 16 cars. 

Note C – On the trip to the Grand Canyon there is no smoking permitted also no gray water is to be dumped within the confines of the National Park.

Note D – Train will be turned over to the Grand Canyon Railway at 2:30 A.M. for switching. All passengers riding train out of Williams Monday morning must be on board Sunday night. Note E – Cars should be topped off with water immediately before departure.

CONSIST

CAR NAME             NUMBER    IN CHARGE          TYPE         NOTE A     INSTRUCTIONS

On at Albuquerque off at Chicago

 City of Spokane        800362      Larry Milsow     Round end Ob.            GC    Round end forward

 On at Albuquerque off at Abluquereque

 Silver Iris                   800285      Bob Klein            Slpr./Lge.  

Pacific Sands            800355      Dean McCormick  Sleeper             A
Scottish Thistle         800636      Dean McCormick  Business            A  GC

Pony Express           800326       Stan Garner          Baggage                 GC

On at Chicago/ off at Albuquerque 

Federal                     800713        Dave Luca            Business                 GC

Burrard                     800591        Bob McLean         Business                 GC

On at Chicago/ off at Chicago

Metis                        800341       Ron Dyer                Business          B   GC
Pointe St. Charles  800516       Chuck Weisner      Business         B    GC

AT&SF 56              800156      Thomas Hoback     Business                 GC

Evelyn Henry            800149         Patrick Henry       Sleeper          C     GC
Warren G. Henry      800344         Patrick Henry       Dome            C      GC

Hollywood Beach      800129        Arthur Cushman    Slpr./Lge.            GC

North Star                 800289        R. P. Flynn             Business        D    GC   Platform forward
Oliver Hazard Perry  800482        Robert Morgan      Slpr./Lge.      D    GC
Birch Grove              800736        Brian Collins           Sleeper         D    GC
Vista Dome               800290       Tom McOwen          Dome           D   GC
Chaple Hill                800043        DeWitt Chapple      Business      D   GC

J. Pinckney Henderson   046        Bob Willits              Slpr./Lge.

Northern Dreams      800710         Dave Hoffman        Slpr./Lge       E     Vestibule fwd. - Lounge rear
Northern Sky            800588         Dave Hoffman         Dome             E     Lounge forward
Georgia 300             800111         Jack Heard              Business      E     Platform rear

Note A, B, C, D, and E: Indicates cars traveling together.

Note GC: Train to Grand Canyon is restricted to 16 cars.  Consist shown above as GC, will be City of Spokane (round end forward) on head end and all cars intact from the Scottish Thistle to the Chapel Hill which will be properly pointed on rear of train. All passengers will be accommodated on the reduced train. Upon return to Williams train is to be put intact for trip to Phoenix.  All passengers will be accommodated on the reduced train.  Upon return to Williams train is to be put intact for trip to Phoenix.  Third unit may be used to provide HEP to cars left at Williams.  

All cars will be in direct release braking.

 Consist out of Los Angeles on NO.4 Oct. 1:

Pony Express      800326 Stan Garner          Baggage
Scottish Thistle    800636 Dean McCormick Business A platform forward
Pacific Sands      800355 Dean McCormick Sleeper A
Silver Iris            800285 Bob Klein             Slpr./ Lge.
City of Spokane 800362 Larry Milsow         Round end Ob. Round end rear (end of train) This will facilitate the pickup at Albuquerque.

Consist out of Williams on Special, Oct 10:

(From head end)
City of Spokane 800362 Larry Milsow       Round End Ob. Round end forward
For set out at Albuquerque:
Burrard              800591 Bob McLean       Business Platform forward
Federal              800713 Dave Luca           Business Platform forward
Pony Express     800326 Stan Garner         Baggage
Scottish Thistle  800636 Dean McCormick Business A Platform forward
Pacific Sands    800535 Dean McCormick Sleeper A
Silver Iris          800285 Bob Klein             Slpr./Lge.
(Reminder of train intact)
Metis to Georgia 300 on rear of train properly pointed.

SERVICING MATRIX

Location           Car           Loco       Ice        Trash        Septic     Switching
                         Water       Fuel  Chicago             ATK         ATK      ATK        ATK         ATK*         ATKArgentine                        BNSF Albuquerque       ATK       ATK        ATK        ATK       Cont.      Road crew Santa Fe (Mon)  SFS**                   SFS**     SFS** Albuquerque       ATK       ATK        ATK        ATK       ATK*      Williams (Day 5)  GCRY     GCRY      GCRY      GCRY                    Switching at Williams with GCRv crews.  

Williams (Day 6)  GCRY     GCRY       GCRY      GCRY     GCRY       Williams (Day 7)   GCRY     GCRY      GCRY       GCRY Williams (Day 8)    GCRY                    GCRY      GCRY    GCRY Williams (Day 9)    GCRY    GCRY       GCRY      GCRY    Albuquerque          ATK      ATK         ATK        ATK      ATK*     Road crew Argentine                            BNSF Chicago                  ATK      ATK        ATK        ATK        ATK        ATK   Cars to receive routine wash at Albuquerque on Oct. 2 and pressure wash at
Williams on Oct. 5. Cars will receive full wash at Williams on Saturday Oct. 8. *  Amtrak will arrange for a contractgor to hanle septic.

** SFS will arrange for necessary contractors.

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